What Happens If An Owner Declines A Repair For A Jackson County Hud Tenant

Scott M.

Existent Estate Broker
Rochester Hills, MI

Scott M.

Existent Estate Banker
Rochester Hills, MI

Replied Oct 1 2022, 12:xiv

Section eight does have limits on what they will pay and as a landlord you lot can accept information technology or decline it. if you reject it you simply find someone who is willing to pay what you are request every bit this tenant (Through Sec. 8) isn't.

Sec 8 tenants are not allowed to do side deals to cover hire above what Sec. 8 approves. If Sec. 8 finds out they can lose their benefits and y'all tin can get into issues with them also.

Tim Miller Pro

Rental Property Investor
Laurel, Md

Replied October 1 2022, 12:15

Aye, that is 100% accurate. HUD sets a monthly rental amount for one, 2, 3 bedrooms and than they accept a formula that will reduce this amount. Plus the tenant cannot pay more 30% or 40% of their income for the difference. So you are at present left with 2 options: one. Accept the lower amount for hire or 2. Notice some other tenant.

Just know that any tenant with department eight going forward will not authorize.

Scott Thou.

Real Estate Banker
Rochester Hills, MI

Scott M.

Real Estate Broker
Rochester Hills, MI

Replied Oct 1 2022, 12:17

Originally posted by @Tim Miller:
Just know that any tenant with section 8 going forward will non qualify.

Locally, this function is not accurate then it may vary region to region. For us, it varies role by office. Have had a lower rate floated refused so some other Sec. 8 comes along from a different part and they pay request. Just our feel though, yours may differ.

Tim Miller Pro

Rental Holding Investor
Laurel, Md

Replied Oct 1 2022, 12:26

@Scott M. REALLY?! I get why each location needs to be flexible but they could have some standard across the country.

JD Martin Premium

Stone Star Extraordinaire
Northeast, TN

JD Martin Premium

Rock Star Extraordinaire
Northeast, TN

ModeratorReplied Oct one 2022, 12:29

Originally posted past @Scott K.:

Originally posted by @Tim Miller:
Just know that any tenant with department 8 going forrad will non qualify.

Locally, this part is not accurate and so information technology may vary region to region. For united states, it varies function past office. Accept had a lower rate floated refused and and so another Sec. 8 comes along from a dissimilar office and they pay request. Just our experience though, yours may differ.

Where I am they get a voucher up to $X amount of money and they are immune to make up the deviation. But at that place's going to be a limit to that because anyone who can afford to pay a big deviation won't be able to qualify for much/any Section viii anyway.

Scott M.

Real Manor Banker
Rochester Hills, MI

Scott M.

Real Estate Broker
Rochester Hills, MI

Replied Oct 1 2022, 12:30

Well if in that location is 1 matter that is clear as mud at present, it is Sec. 8 rules : ) Clearly they differ region by region.

Dan Mcguire

Existent Estate Agent
Shoreham, NY

Replied Oct i 2022, 15:57

You can rent separate items to section 8. You can rent them a washer or dryer.

Tavis Moore Pro

New to Real Estate
Flowood MS

Replied October 1 2022, 18:46

@Scott M.

Well it makes sense...... I don't recollect someone who has section 8 in my country(mississippi) should be able to have hire covered for a unit that's worth over $1,000.

Lol $1,000 rent in Mississippi is a GREAT flat, locked gate community, pool, gym, and etc.

So imagine sect 8 from California having the same as Mississippi or vice versa? It would be insane!

Replied October 1 2022, 22:46

You are non actually suppose to accept rent more than than Section 8 allows. It is based on what they consider the value of the unit plus what the tenant tin can afford to pay. If it is more than so the tenant is either hiding role of their income or is non paying some other bill. Yous could go far equally much trouble as the tenant.

Replied Oct 1 2022, 22:49

Originally posted by @Tim Miller:
@Scott Chiliad. Really?! I go why each location needs to exist flexible but they could have some standard across the land.

They have different maximum amounts for each county however, the inspector also has a lot to say well-nigh how much rent can exist charged.

Replied October 1 2022, 22:58

@Tavis Moore

i call up you are a flake behind on what's the going rent these days in Mississippi. I own houses in South Jackson. The going rate now for a 3 bdrm ii ba house is $950 a month. I am in the procedure of renting a 4 bdrm house via Section 8. It was approved for $1085. If these properties were in Flowood y'all could get even more than. Yes, you can still rent an apartment for just 1K it is only one or two bedrooms merely Section 8 vouchers are not just for apartments. I simply bought a condo for my son on the NE side of town that is gated, etc. and the rental value of that condo would be almost $1600.

Alex Duarte

Existent Estate Agent
Orange, CA

Replied Oct 1 2022, 23:34

@Scott M. That makes complete sense. That's what the case worker told me. Something to really think nigh at this point then... the applicant mentioned she has another homeless housing assistance (separate from sec.eight) that would be willing to fill up in the gap but I don't think sec.eight volition allow it.

Has anyone ever had this happen? Where a tenant is wanting to double up on their housing assistance to cover rent?

Yes thats correct for my expanse. She mentioned for Los Angeles County it would exist the aforementioned all across the lath for sec. 8 as for off-white market place rent limit.

Does anyone take whatsoever idea on incentives? They offered me an additional $g up front end if I decide to move forward. Do you know if this is negotiable or is this a ready toll/ incentive per location?

Alex Duarte

Existent Estate Agent
Orange, CA

Replied Oct 1 2022, 23:36

@Susan Maneck Aye that's what the case worker mentioned since they would flag it every bit "fraud" for the tenant.

Tavis Moore Pro

New to Real Manor
Flowood MS

Replied Oct one 2022, 23:36

@Susan Maneck wow! I had no thought!

Scott M.

Real Estate Banker
Rochester Hills, MI

Scott 1000.

Real Estate Broker
Rochester Hills, MI

Replied Oct two 2022, 08:05

Alex, no I take non had that happen. That said, I would e'er run it past Sec. viii for approval (bold you want to do things the right way). They demand to give it the postage of approval not just for you to collect it but for the tenant to go on to receive Sec 8.

Jay Curley Pro

Real Estate Amanuensis
Wilmington, NC

Replied October ii 2022, 08:08

@Alex Duarte

I take heard that section 8 recipients in our area are given a specific amount and are non immune to deviate from the corporeality they are given, or they will be denied benefits.

Patti Robertson Premium

Belongings Director
Virginia Embankment, VA

Replied October 2 2022, 08:46

@Scott M. This would exist due to the first tenant being denied b/c the rent amount was not affordable for their income. The second tenant had to take more than income which made information technology affordable. When our rent is denied I always ask if it was due to 1) the reasonable hire test or two) the affordability test.

Replied Oct ii 2022, 09:29

Originally posted past @Tavis Moore:
@Susan Maneck wow! I had no idea!

Mind y'all, I am just charging this corporeality for new tenants. Existing tenants volition have their hire increased only very gradually. It just wouldn't exist fair to practice otherwise. But if yous go the following website you can see what HUD considers to be the fair market value in each area. https://www.huduser.gov/portal...

For instance in the 39047 null code the fair market value on a 3/2 right now is over 1700!

Replied Oct 2 2022, 10:59

@Alex Duarte - yous've gotten a blessing in disguise. I've dealt with more than Department 8 tenants than I intendance to acknowledge, and frankly, for reasons of psychological wellness, I believe my heed has blocked it out. Renting to Department 8(in my experience, and I'm sure plenty of people volition tell me I'm wrong, that's fine) is ane of the fastest means to become poor that I tin can retrieve of. A faster, more entertaining way to go poor is to bet on horses, sporting events, or the like- if y'all go that route, you'll become poor but at least y'all'll have had fun getting there.

I recollect a conversation with a Section 8 employee a few years ago- Section 8 was angling to go far illegal to refuse tenants based on the tenants' use of Section eight. I don't know how that panned out. Y'all, however, have absolutely no concerns on that front end. You tin gleefully clap your easily and say, "Sorry, nosotros can't take you because the hire is $2100 and Section 8 is capping the rent at $1800!" If you accept this side deal with the tenant, they will renege. They'll renege because information technology'll say in the charter that it's illegal for you to take side money, and equally shortly every bit something irritates the tenant, they'll threaten you because yous broke the police force. And y'all'll but be getting $1800/mo btw. And you'll have no recourse. Why would you put yourself in that situation?

Don't look a gift horse in the oral cavity. Find a tenant who will pay what you're asking.

Matt Bishop

Rental Holding Investor
Dallas, TX

Replied Oct 2 2022, 14:fifteen

@Alex Duarte,

I attended a landlord seminar put on by Dallas Housing Potency about 20 years ago. There was a federal align speaker who told us it is a violation of federal police to accept coin from the tenant above what is stated in the charter. The housing authority volition not approve a lease with a hire amount that exceeds published rent standards for the zip code. If y'all follow the laws exactly, y'all tin can make reliable money with the section 8 program. Some zip codes and bedroom count are profitable, some not. It's been my feel that section eight voucher holders are quiet and respectful as they tin lose their voucher without due process if they brand any trouble. Always practice a groundwork cheque on every adult who will occupy your property. Single mothers with immature children tend to stay in 1 place until their children graduate high school. 4 chamber vouchers/ houses seem to yield the higher cap rate and the college rent per unit of measurement. Providing section eight houses is a bang-up way to assist those who are in need. No room for political opinion, racism or judgment. I propose y'all get acquainted with the caseworkers at your local housing authority.

Alex Duarte

Real Manor Agent
Orange, CA

Replied Oct 2 2022, 16:14

@Michael Gansberg I appreciate the insight. It was only a question I wanted to inquire to see if anyone'south ever dealt with something similar to this. I'm OK with the proposed rents from Sec. eight since I ran my protections on $1800-1900/mo. I'll be positive cash flow at this charge per unit, and then I'grand one happy camper even so.

Anybody, I appreciate you all taking the fourth dimension to respond and chime in. 🙏

Replied October ii 2022, 21:20

In our county, the tenant is not allowed to make upward the divergence in hire, and non allowed to have any hire payments "off the books" (meaning you're not allowed to accept any side agreements for additional hire). Withal, pet fees, parking fees, laundry rental fees, etc are all allowed and are between the tenant and the owner. If allowed in your marketplace, such fees could potentially be used to aid make upwards for the defecit. Maybe you can restructure your rental to charge for civilities that were previously included complimentary of charge. ;)

Bruce Lynn Premium

Real Manor Broker
Coppell, TX

Replied Oct 3 2022, 02:28

@Alex Duarte That's they fashion information technology works in my expanse too. I always enquire the tenants how much their voucher is....considering even if they are willing to pay the difference, sometimes they tin't legally....and if they don't it is also tough to adios when they don't pay their share, because the agency/city paid their portion. Then once more if you rental is in CA, might be tough to evict anyway.